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SaraSue
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Posted: June 04 2008 2:43 PM Email SaraSue Send an AIM message to this user

When I set a patient fluid removal rate, I notice that some machines are very accurate and others are not, why is this?  EXAMPLE:  set rate of 75 and at end of hour the actual PFR is 175. All scales are calibrated.


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Posted: August 14 2008 11:27 AM Email Paige Send a Private Message to Paige

Sara Sue,
I have noticed the same thing; however, I think that it is more related to the patient than the machine (I know it cannot be anything I am doing...). I think patients that are hypotensive and require vasopressors or have access issues produce very labile or dynamic intracircuit pressures that impact the therapy pumps. Also, there have been some interesting studies regarding inconsistent circuit flow (periods of stasis) despite stable circuit pressures. In large variances, I would suspect it is more related to failure to deliver a therapy solution while the effluent pump continues to meter off the anticipated input volumes (in integrated CRRT pumps, effluent pump removes the sum of the dialysate and/or replacement set rate plus any extra UF ordered). Example: leave clamp on dialysate line after bag change. Fluid does not infuse, but effluent pump continues to pull off volume. The math of it is that fluid does not go in, but volume is pulled off, therefore, patient volume removal is greater than set. Effluent pump will pull from the path of least resistance, which is the patient (plasma water). Make sense?



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